Concise Minutes - Finance Committee


Meeting Venue:

Hybrid - Committee

room 5 Ty Hywel and video conference

via Zoom

Meeting date: Thursday, 22 September 2022

Meeting time: 09.30 - 12.56
This meeting can be viewed
on Senedd TV at:
http://senedd.tv/en/12963


Hybrid

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Attendance

Category

Names

Members of the Senedd:

Peredur Owen Griffiths MS (Chair)

Peter Fox MS

Mike Hedges MS

Rhianon Passmore MS

Witnesses:

Ruth Glazzard, preferred candidate for Chair of the Welsh Revenue Authority

Adrian Crompton, Auditor General for Wales, Audit Wales Lindsay Foyster, Audit Wales

Kevin Thomas, Audit Wales

Ann-Marie Harkin, Audit Wales

Laurie Davies, Wales Audit Office

Committee Staff:

Owain Roberts (Clerk)

Leanne Hatcher (Second Clerk)

Georgina Owen (Second Clerk)

Mike Lewis (Deputy Clerk)

Christian Tipples (Researcher)

Owen Holzinger (Researcher)

 

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Private pre-meeting - Informal (09.15-09.30)

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1       Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

1.1 The Chair welcomed Members to the meeting of the Finance Committee.

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2       Paper(s) to note

2.1 The papers were noted.

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2.1   PTN 1 - Letter from the Counsel General to LJC Committee: Inter-Ministerial Standing Committee  - 12 July 2022

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2.2   PTN 2 - Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government: Statement of Principles for Directly Funded Bodies – 14 July 2022

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2.3   PTN 3 - Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government: Welsh Government's Finance Committee - 20 July 2022

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2.4   PTN 4 - Additional information from the Minister for Finance and Local Government: First Supplementary Budget 2022-23 - 26 July 2022

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2.5   PTN 5 - Letter from the Deputy Minister for Social Partnership: Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Act 2015 consultation - 5 August 2022

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2.6   PTN 6 - Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government: Report on Outturn 2020-21 - 5 August 2022

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2.7   PTN 7 - Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government: Welsh Government response to First Supplementary budget 2022-23 report / EU Funding arrangements - 22 August 2022

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2.8   PTN 8 - Letter from the Public Services Ombudsman for Wales to Chair of the Local Government and Housing Committee: Complaints Standards work - 7 September 2022

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3       Pre-appointment hearing for Chair of the Welsh Revenue Authority

3.1 The Committee conducted a Pre-appointment Hearing of the Welsh Government’s preferred candidate for the position of Chair of the Welsh Revenue Authority, Ruth Glazzard.

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4       Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from from items 5, 6, 9, 10 and 11; and the start of the meeting on 29 September 2022

4.1 The motion was agreed.

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5       Pre-appointment hearing for Chair of the Welsh Revenue Authority: Consideration of evidence

5.1 The Committee considered the appropriateness of the preferred candidate.

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6       Post-EU funding arrangements: Consideration of draft report

6.1 The Committee agreed the draft report with minor changes.

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Public

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7       Audit Wales – Scrutiny of the Annual Report and Accounts 2021-22 and the Annual Plan 2022-23: Evidence session

7.1 The Committee took evidence from the Auditor General for Wales; Chair of the Wales Audit Office; and Audit Wales officials.

 

7.2 Audit Wales agreed to provide further details at the appropriate time on the actual costs for:

 

·         the audit of the Welsh Government's 2020-21 accounts.

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8       Audit Wales - Supplementary Estimate 2022-23: Evidence session

8.1 The Committee took evidence from the Auditor General for Wales; Chair of the Wales Audit Office; and Audit Wales officials.

 

8.2 Audit Wales agreed to provide further details at the appropriate time on the actual costs for:

 

·         dilapidations for Cathedral Rd.

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Private

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9       Audit Wales - Supplementary Estimate 2022-23: Consideration of evidence

9.1 The Committee considered the evidence received and agreed in principle to the funding request.

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10    Audit Wales – Scrutiny of the Annual Report and Accounts 2021-22 and the Annual Plan 2022-23: Consideration of evidence

10.1 The Committee considered the evidence received.

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11    Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24 - Approach to budget scrutiny

11.1 The Committee considered the papers on the approach to budget scrutiny.

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12    Financial implications of the Environmental Protection (Single-use Plastic Products) (Wales) Bill

12.1 The Committee considered the supporting documents and agreed to take evidence from the Minister for Climate Change on the Financial implications of the Environmental Protection (Single-use Plastic Products) (Wales) Bill.

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